That's not at all how I see it (and from what I read above also not @ventoy sees it). Is there a way to force Ventoy to boot in Legacy mode? Windows 7 32-bit does not support UEFI32 - you must use Win7 64-bit.. You may need to disable Secure Boot in your BIOS settings first (or convert the ISO to a .imgPTN23 file using the MPI Tool Kit). I was just objecting to your claim that Secure Boot is useless when someone has physical access to the device, which I don't think is true, as it is still (afaik) required for TPM-based encryption to work correctly. bionicpup64-8.0-uefi.iso Legacy+UEFI tested with VM, ZeroShell-3.9.3-X86.iso Legacy tested with VM, slax-64bit-9.11.0.iso Legacy tested with VM. Again, it doesn't matter whether you believe it makes sense to have Secure Boot enabled or not. For more information on how to download and install Ventoy on Windows 10/11, we have a guide for that. I downloaded filename Win10_21H2_BrazilianPortuguese_x64.iso evrything works fine with legacy mode. The user could choose to run a Microsoft Windows Install ISO downloaded from the MS servers and Ventoy could inject a malicious file into it as it boots. Well occasionally send you account related emails. This will disable validation policy override, making Secure Book work as desired: it will load only signed files (+ files signed with SHIM MOK key). Ventoy Version 1.0.78 What about latest release Yes. Remove the Windows 7 installation CD/DVD from the disc tray, type exit in Command Prompt and press Enter. You literally move files around and use a text editor to edit theme.text, ventoy.json, and so on. Google for how to make an iso uefi bootable for more info. Help !!!!!!! Will polish and publish the code later. If it fails to do that, then you have created a major security problem, no matter how you look at it. Yet, that is technically what Ventoy does if you enrol it for Secure Boot, as it makes it look like any bootloader, that wasn't signed by Microsoft, was signed by Microsoft. https://abf.openmandriva.org/product_build_lists. We recommend downloading this PC Repair tool (rated Great on TrustPilot.com) to easily address them. Yep, the Rescuezilla v2.4 thing is not a problem with Ventoy. 8 Mb. If I wasn't aware that Ventoy uses SUISBD, I would be confused just as you by its Secure Boot "support" and lack of information about its consequences. Maybe the image does not support X64 UEFI! Anything Debian-based fails to boot for me across two computers and several versions of Ventoy. Download ventoy-delete-key-1..iso and copy it to the Ventoy USB drive. Optional custom shim protocol registration (not included in this build, creates issues). It is pointless to try to enforce Secure Boot from a USB drive. en_windows_10_business_editions_version_1909_updated_april_2020_x64_dvd_aa945e0d.iso | 5 GB, en_windows_10_business_editions_version_2004_x64_dvd_d06ef8c5.iso | 5 GB I checked and they don't work. Both are good. Can't say for others, but I made Super UEFIinSecureBoot Disk with that exact purpose: to bypass Secure Boot validation policy. All the .efi files may not be booted. https://osdn.net/projects/manjaro/storage/kde/, https://abf.openmandriva.org/platforms/cooker/products/4/product_build_lists/3250, https://abf.openmandriva.org/product_build_lists, chromeos_14816.99.0_reven_recovery_stable-channel_mp-v2.bin, https://github.com/rescuezilla/rescuezilla/releases/download/2.4/rescuezilla-2.4-64bit.jammy.iso, https://nyancat.fandom.com/wiki/MEMZ_Nyan_Cat, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mv6Cbew_y8&t=1m13s, https://mega.nz/folder/TI8ECBKY#i89YUsA0rCJp9kTClz3VlA. Therefore, Ventoy/Grub should be altered as follows: Hopefully this shouldn't be too complex to add, though it may require some research, and modifying GRUB to do just that might require a lot of work. 4. Again, I think it is very fair to say that, if you use use Ventoy on a Secure Boot enabled system, and you went through Ventoy Secure Boot enrolment, they you expect that ISOs that aren't Secure Boot compliant will be reported, as they would with other means of using them on that system. And, unless you're going to stand behind every single Ventoy user to explain why you think it shouldn't matter that Ventoy will let any unsigned bootloader through, that's just not going to fly. ", https://drive.google.com/file/d/1_mYChRFanLEdyttDvT-cn6zH0o6KX7Th/view So, Ventoy can also adopt that driver and support secure boot officially. That is just to make sure it has really written the whole Ventoy install onto the usb stick. The iso image (prior to modification) works perfectly, and boots using Ventoy. P.S. Maybe the image does not support x64 uefi . DSAService.exe (Intel Driver & Support Assistant). A least, I'd expect that a tutorial that advises a user to modify a JSON file to have done a bit more research into the topic and provide better advice. openSUSE-Tumbleweed-XFCE-Live-x86_64-Snapshot20200402-Media - 925 MB, star-kirk-2.1.0-xfce-amd64-live.iso - 518 MB, Porteus-CINNAMON-v5.0rc1-x86_64.iso - 300 MB privacy statement. My guesd is it does not. when the user Secure Boots via MokManager - even when booting signed efi files of Ubuntu or Windows? Still having issues? Topics in this forum are automatically closed 6 months after creation. Maybe I can provide 2 options for the user in the install program or by plugin. I have installed Ventoy on my USB and I have added ISO file: "Win10SupperLite_TeamOS_Edition.iso" If you get some error screen instead of the above blue screen (for example, Linpus lite xxxx). Thank you About Fuzzy Screen When Booting Window/WinPE, Ventoy2Disk.exe can't enumerate my USB device. You are receiving this because you commented. @pbatard Correct me if I'm wrong, but even with physical access, the main point of Secure Boot is to allow TPM to validate the running system before releasing stored keys, isn't it? Maybe the image does not support X64 UEFI" hello everyone Using ventoy, if I try to install the ISO. It says that no bootfile found for uefi. It's a pain in the ass to do yes, but I wouldn't qualify it as very hard. Yeah, I think UEFI LoadImage()/StarImage(), which is what you'd call to chain load the UEFI bootloader, are set to validate the loaded image for Secure Boot and not launch it for unsigned/broken images, if Secure Boot is enabled (but I admit I haven't formally validated that). Users have been encountering issues with Ventoy not working or experiencing booting issues. Try updating it and see if that fixes the issue. If everything is fine, I'll prepare the repo, prettify the code and write detailed compilation and usage instructions, as well as help @ventoy with integration. Paragon ExtFS for Windows Guid For Ventoy With Secure Boot in UEFI While Ventoy is designed to boot in with secure boot enabled, if your computer does not support the secure boot feature, then an error will result. Worked fine for me on my Thinkpad T420. Forum rules Before you post please read how to get help. I can 3 options and option 3 is the default. @pbatard Maybe I can get Ventoy's grub signed with MS key. "No bootfile found for UEFI! Maybe the image does not support X64 UEFI Mybe the image does not support X64 UEFI! legacy - ok I used Rufus on a new USB with the same iso image, and when I booted to it with UEFI it booted successfully. my pleasure and gladly happen :) Background Some of us have bad habits when using USB flash drive and often pull it out directly. la imagen iso,bin, etc debe ser de 64 bits sino no la reconoce For instance, if you produce digitally signed software for Windows, to ensure that your users can validate that when they run an application, they can tell with certainty whether it comes from you or not, you really don't want someone to install software on the user computer that will suddenly make applications that weren't signed by you look as if they were signed by you. However, I'm not sure whether chainloading of shims are allowed, and how it would work if you try to load for example Ubuntu when you already have Fedora's shim loaded. ", same error during creating windows 7 Won't it be annoying? Ventoy doesn't load the kernel directly inside the ISO file(e.g. 6. Fix them with this tool: If the advices above haven't solved your issue, your PC may experience deeper Windows problems. I suspect that, even as we are not there yet, this is something that we're eventually going to see (but most likely as a choice for the user to install the fully secured or partially secured version of the OS), culminating in OSes where every single binary that runs needs to be signed, and for the certificates those binaries are signed with to be in the chain of trust of OS. debes activar modo legacy en el bios-uefi Select "Partition scheme" as MBR (Master Boot Record) and "File system" as NTFS. 1. And I will posit that if someone sees it differently, or tries to justify the current behaviour of Ventoy, of letting any untrusted bootloaders pass through when Secure Boot is enabled, they don't understand trust chains, whereas this is pretty much the base of any computer security these days. | 5 GB, void-live-x86_64-20191109-xfce.iso | 780 MB, refracta10-beta5_xfce_amd64-20200518_0033.iso | 800 MB, devuan_beowulf_3.0.0_amd64_desktop-live.iso | 1.10 GB, drbl-live-xfce-2.6.2-1-amd64.iso | 800 MB, kali-linux-2020-W23-live-amd64.iso | 2.88 GB, blackarch-linux-live-2020.06.01-x86_64.iso | 14 GB, cucumber-linux-1.1-x86_64-basic.iso | 630 MB, BlankOn-11.0.1-desktop-amd64.iso | 1.8 GB, openmamba-livecd-en-snapshot-20200614.x86_64.iso | 1.9 GB, sol-11_3-text-x86.iso | 600 MB Ventoy supports ISO, WIM, IMG, VHD(x), EFI files using an exFAT filesystem. unsigned .efi file still can not be chainloaded. Rik. Must hardreset the System. I made a VHD of an arch installation and installed the vtoyboot mod and it keeps on giving me the no UEFI error. What system are you booting from? Any ideas? There are many kinds of WinPE. Nevertheless, thanks for the explanation, it cleared up some things for me around the threat model of Secure Boot. etc. KANOTIX uses a hybrid ISO layout, it definitely has X64 UEFI in ISO9660 and FAT12 (usually 1MiB offset). Any way to disable UEFI booting capability from Ventoy and only leave legacy? Fedora/Ubuntu/xxx). However, Ventoy can be affected by anti-virus software and protection programs. The worst part is, at the NSA level, this is peanuts to implement, and it certainly doesn't require teams of coders or mathematicians trying to figure out a flaw or vulnerability. I am just resuming my work on it. Adding an efi boot file to the directory does not make an iso uefi-bootable. I remember that @adrian15 tried to create a sets of fully trusted chainload chains to be used in Super GRUB2 Disk. If that was the case, I would most likely sign Ventoy for my SHIM (provided it doesn't let through unsigned bootloaders when Secure Boot is enabled, which is the precise issue we are trying to solve) since, even if it's supposed to be a competitor of Rufus, I think it's a very nice solution and I'm always more than happy to direct people who would like to have a multiboot version of Rufus to use Ventoy instead. As Ventoy itself is not signed with Microsoft key, it uses Shim from Fedora (or, more precisely, from Super UEFIinSecureBoot Disk). You can open the ISO in 7zip and look for yourself. So maybe Ventoy also need a shim as fedora/ubuntu does. If the ISO file name is too long to displayed completely. @shasheene of Rescuezilla knows about the problem and they are investigating. ia32 . Ventoy But this time I get The firmware encountered an unexpected exception. So I think that also means Ventoy will definitely impossible to be a shim provider. ventoy maybe the image does not support x64 uefi 4. Happy to be proven wrong, I learned quite a bit from your messages. This software will repair common computer errors, protect you from file loss, malware, hardware failure and optimize your PC for maximum performance. @steve6375 Not exactly. The boot.wim mode appears to be over 500MB. In this case, try renaming the efi folder as efixxx, and then see if you get a legacy boot option. If a user whitelists Ventoy using MokManager, it's because they want the Ventoy bootloader to run in a Secure Boot environment and want it to only chain load boot loaders that meet the Secure Boot requirements. But MediCat USB is already open-source, built upon the open-source Ventoy project. How to mount the ISO partition in Linux after boot ? Cantt load some ISOs - Ventoy You can change the type or just delete the partition. @BxOxSxS Please test these ISO files in Virtual Machine (e.g. Yeah to clarify, my problem is a little different and i should've made that more clear. I've made some tests this evening, it should be possible to make more-or-less proper Secure Boot support in Ventoy, but that would require modification of grub code to use shim protocol, and digital signatures for all Ventoy efi files, modules, etc. The BIOS decides to boot Ventoy in Legacy BIOS mode or in UEFI mode. Option 1: doesn't support secure boot at all @ventoy I have tested on laptop Lenovo Ideapad Z570 and Memtest86-4.3.7.iso and ipxe.iso gived same error but with additional information: netboot.xyz-efi.iso (v2.0.17), manjaro-gnome-20.0.3-200606-linux56.iso, Windows10_PLx64_2004.iso worked fine. Already on GitHub? Tried with archlinux-2021.05.01-x86_64 which is listed as compatible and it is working flawlessly. You can grab latest ISO files here : But Ventoy currently does. What you want is for users to be alerted if someone picked a Linux or Microsoft media, and the UEFI bootloader was altered from the original. XP predated thumbdrives big enough to hold a whole CD image, and indeed widespread use of USB thumb drives in general. In other words, that there might exist other software that might be used to force the door open is irrelevant. That is the point. Menu Option-->Secure Boot Support for Ventoy2Disk.exe and -s option for Ventoy2Disk.sh Option 2 will be the default option. Hiren's BootCD This is also known as file-rolller. Does the iso boot from s VM as a virtual DVD? Ventoy just create a virtual cdrom device based on the ISO file and chainload to the bootx64.efi/shim.efi inside the ISO file. Attached Files Thumbnail (s) Find Reply Steve2926 Senior Member I'm not sure whether Ventoy should try to boot Linux kernel without any verification in this case (. This seem to be disabled in Ventoy's custom GRUB). size: 589 (617756672 byte) Any progress towards proper secure boot support without using mokmanager? Some questions about using KLV-Airedale - Page 4 - Puppy Linux Hi, HDClone can be booted by Ventoy in Memdisk mode for legacy BIOS, you try Ventoy 1.0.08 beta2. I've tested it with Microsoft-signed binaries, custom-signed binaries, ubuntu ISO file (which chainloads own shim grub signed with Canonical key) all work fine. And, for any of this to work, Ventoy would still need to independently solve the problem of allowing unsigned bootloaders pass through when Secure Boot is enabled @ventoy function gennr(){var n=480678,t=new Date,e=t.getMonth()+1,r=t.getDay(),a=parseFloat("0. FreeNAS-11.3-U2.1.iso (FreeBSD based) tested using ventoy-1.0.08 hung during boot in both bios and uefi at the following error; da1: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY, Medium not present Joined Jul 18, 2020 Messages 4 Trophies 0 . Agreed. If you pull the USB drive out immediately after finish copy a big ISO file, most probably the file in the USB will be corrupted. But when I try to boot it with ventoy it does not boot and says the message "No bootfile found for UEFI". It only causes problems. Thanks very much for proposing this great OS , tested and added to report. The main point of Secure Boot is to prevent (or at least warn about) the execution of bootloaders that have not been vetted by Microsoft or one of the third parties that Microsoft signed a shim for (such as Red Hat). For instance, it could be that only certain models of PC have this problem with certain specific ISOs. @blackcrack Download non-free firmware archive. That would be my preference, because someone who wants to bypass Secure Boot indiscriminately, without disabling Secure Boot altogether, should have a clue what they are doing, and the problem with presenting options as a dialog is that you end up with tutorials that advise users to pick the less secure option, because whoever wrote happened to find the other choices inconvenient without giving much thought about the end result. No bootfile found for UEFI! If the secure boot is enabled in the BIOS, the following screen should be displayed when boot Ventoy at thte first time. There are many other applications that can create bootable disks but Ventoy comes with its sets of features. Well occasionally send you account related emails. It's the job of Ventoy's custom GRUB to ensure that what is being chainloaded is Secure Boot compliant because that's what users will expect from a trustworthy boot application in a Secure Boot environment. No idea what's wrong with the sound lol. I really fail to fathom how people here are disputing that if someone agrees to enroll Ventoy in a Secure Boot environment, it only means that they agree to trust the Ventoy application, and not that they grant it the right to just run whatever bootloader anybody will now be able to throw at their computer through Ventoy (which may very well be a malicious bootloader ran by someone who is not the owner of that computer but who knows or hopes that the user enrolled Ventoy). Sign up for a free GitHub account to open an issue and contact its maintainers and the community. It also happens when running Ventoy in QEMU. da1: quirks=0x2. Already on GitHub? Of course , Added. ventoy_x64.efi/ventoy_util_x64.efi ) , they do need digital signatures. The best workaround is to install some Linux variant (I use Fedora but Ubuntu and SUSE are supported) and install VirtualBox. (I updated to the latest version of Ventoy). In Windows, Ventoy2Disk.exe will only list the device removable and in USB interface type by default. If anyone has Secure Boot enabled, there should be no scenario where an unsigned bootloader gets executed without at least a big red warning, even if the user indicated that they were okay with that. accomodate this. Currently there is only a Secure boot support option for check. Acronis True Image 2020 24.6.1 Build 25700 in Legacy is working in Memdisk mode on 1.0.08 beta 2 but on another older Version of Acronis 2020 sometimes is boot's up but the most of the time he's crashing after loading acronis loader text. Maybe the image does not support X64 UEFI." UEFI64 Bootfile \EFI\Boot\bootx64.efi is present. Yes, I already understood my mistake. My guess is it does not. Secure Boot is tricky to deal with and can (rightfully) be seen as a major inconvenience instead of yet another usually desireable line of defence against malware (but by all means not a panacea). Ventoy2Disk.exe always failed to update ? However, I guess it should be possible to automatically enroll ALL needed keys to shim from grub module on the first boot (when the user enrolls my ENROLL_THIS_CERT_INTO_MOKMANAGER.crt) and handle unsigned efi binaries as a special case or just require to sign them with user-generated key? Boot net installer and install Debian. https://github.com/ventoy/Ventoy/releases/tag/v1.0.33, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5NFuDCZQ00, http://tinycorelinux.net/13.x/x86_64/release/. If you want you can toggle Show all devices option, then all the devices will be in the list. For instance, if you download a Windows or Linux ISO, you sure want to find out if someone altered the official bootloader, that was put there by the people who created the ISO, because it might tell you if something was maliciously inserted there. it doesn't support Bluetooth and doesn't have nvidia's proprietary drivers but it's very easy to install. Customizing installed software before installing LM. Yes ! yes, but i try with rufus, yumi, winsetuptousb, its okay. You signed in with another tab or window. Official FAQ I have checked the official FAQ. Many thanks! Not associated with Microsoft. regular-cinnamon-latest-x86_64.iso - 1.1 GB, openSUSE-Tumbleweed-GNOME-Live-x86_64-Snapshot20200326-Media.iso - 852MB 2. Open net installer iso using archive manager in Debian (pre-existing system). Ubuntu has shim which load only Ubuntu, etc. So all Ventoy's behavior doesn't change the secure boot policy. All the .efi/kernel/drivers are not modified. Remain what in the install program Ventoy2Disk.exe . But even the user answer "YES, I don't care, just boot it." Even debian is problematic with this laptop. I would say that it probably makes sense to first see what LoadImage()/StarImage() let through in an SB enabled environment (provided that this is what Ventoy/GRUB uses behind the scenes, which I'm not too sure about), and then decide if it's worth/possible to let users choose to run unsigned bootloaders. I have a solution for this. To create a USB stick that is compatible with USB 3.0 using the native boot experience of the Windows 10 Technical Preview media (or Windows 8/Windows 8.1), use DiskPart to format the USB stick and set the partition to active, then copy all of the files from inside the ISO . It was actually quite the struggle to get to that stage (expensive too!) slax 15.0 boots backbox-7-desktop-amd64.iso - 2.47 GB, emmabuntus-de3-amd64-10.3-1.01.iso - 3.37 GB, pentoo-full-amd64-hardened-2019.2.iso - 4 GB sharafat.pages.dev - . Hi, HDClone 9.0.11 ISO is stating on UEFI succesfully but on Legacy after choose "s" or "x64" to start hdclone it open's a black windows in front of the Ventoy Menu and noting happens more. @pbatard Sorry, I should have explained my position clearer - I fully agree that the Secure Boot bypass Ventoy uses is not secure, and I'm not using Ventoy exactly because of it. If you have a faulty USB stick, then youre likely to encounter booting issues. ventoy maybe the image does not support x64 uefi With ventoy, you don't need to format the disk over and over, you just need to copy the ISO/WIM/IMG/VHD (x)/EFI. Let us know in the comments which solution worked for you. The live folder is similar to Debian live. Single x64 ISO - OK - Works and install.esd found by Setup - all Editions listed Dual 32+64 ISO - FAIL - Did not find install.esd file (either 64 or 32) \x64\sources\ and \x32\sources in ISO UEFI64 Boot: Single x64 ISO - FAIL - 'No boot file found by UEFI' ' Maybe the image does not support X64 UEFI!' All other distros can not be booted. You don't need anything special to create a UEFI bootable Arch USB. Ctrl+i to change boot mode of some ISOs to be more compatible Ctrl+w to use wimboot to boot Windows and WinPE ISOs (e.g. Fix PC issues and remove viruses now in 3 easy steps: download and install Ventoy on Windows 10/11, Brother Printer Paper Jam: How to Easily Clear It, Fix Missing Dll Files in Windows 10 & Learn what Causes that. 4. ext2fsd I have tried the latest release, but the bug still exist. I'll fix it. No bootfile found for UEFI! How did you get it to be listed by Ventoy? Thnx again. Turned out archlinux-2021.06.01-x86_64 is not compatible. By clicking Sign up for GitHub, you agree to our terms of service and And unfortunately, because Ventoy is derived from GRUB 2.0, the only way it could run in a Secure Boot environment (without using MokManager) is if it is loaded through a SHIM. Of course, there are ways to enable proper validation. Option2: Use Ventoy's grub which is signed with MS key. When enrolling Ventoy, they do not. This same image I boot regularly on VMware UEFI. What exactly is the problem? 3. FreeBSD 13.1-RELEASE Aarch64 fails to boot saying "No bootfile found for UEFI!". Did you test using real system and UEFI64 boot? Guid For Ventoy With Secure Boot in UEFI 1All the steps bellow only need to be done once for each computer when booting Ventoy at the first time. Error : @FadeMind That's actually the whole reason shims exist, because Microsoft forbade Linux people to get their most common UEFI boot manager signed for Secure Boot, so the Linux community was forced into creating a separate non GPLv3 boot loader that loads GRUB, and that can be signed for Secure Boot. Just right-click on "This PC" on the desktop, select "Manage", and click on "Disk Management . Parrot-security-4.9.1_x64.iso - 3.8 GB, eos-eos3.7-amd64-amd64.200310-013107.base.iso - 2.83 GB, minimal_linux_live_15-Dec-2019_64-bit_mixed.iso - 18.9 MB, OracleLinux-R7-U3-Server-x86_64-dvd.iso - 4.64 GB, backbox-6-desktop-amd64.iso - 2.51 GB